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Allan Hartley, publisher/editor of New Perspectives interviewed Leigh
Taylor-Young recently. She lives her life openly and with great passion. In this interview
she shares about certain times in her career and her spiritual life that were of great
insight and changed her life forever.
AH: I know you are involved with speaking for a number of social concerns.
What is one of the causes you would like to see advanced?
LTY: The cause I would like to see advanced the most is world peace. Where I
lend my energy is really where my heart leads me. I participate with organizations when I
feel I have a respect for the people and they are genuine. Really, I'm not one of those
activists who are externally oriented, where it's about saving humanity. I would have to
sound selfish to say my number one priority is to save myself in the eyes of God within
me. So my spiritual evolution is my number one commitment. Out of this "journey"
well-being and wholism overflow and I like to give to things that touch my heart and
interest. So, I might say on my behalf, that I'm not a representative of the UN or any
organization. I participate by lending my heart, and whatever gifts I have, often in the
moment, as a contribution of the moment. I'm not much of a belonger to organizations.
AH: How is speaking for organizations specifically done?
LTY: At a dinner I met a woman whom I liked very much, who was representing an
organization Ted Turner had started called "The Better World Society." I spoke
to her and said, "I'd like to do some volunteer work for you." She called me
immediately. Within a short time, I was giving speeches and occasionally introducing Ted
around this organization, which created educational and inspirational documentaries. And
because of my interest in what they were doing I found myself doing other things for them.
My particular involvement has been with the environment, the Institute for Individual and
World Peace, and Educare. Educare has incredible programs for developing self esteem in
children who live in the inner city and who externally appear to have no opportunity.
AH: You are also interested in the environment. Can you tell me about the
Greenland trip you took in 1996?
LTY: The Greenland trip was the first Arctic ridge expedition sponsored by a
major "green" corporation. Amway has a great sense of commitment and
responsibility to the environment. They have increased public awareness of environmental
issues. They come up with solutions instead of just identifying problems, an important
difference.
AH: Is there one thing that stood out for you on that trip?
LTY: My greatest observation was about the value of "journeys" outside of
bureaucratic structure. This allows more intimate dialogue between people who really can
make a difference through legislation and other ways. This was a group of highly
intelligent, committed, dedicated people on an eight day journey that was extremely
intense. We were covering a lot of ground and a lot of air -- in planes a lot. We
exchanged seats, really talking to each other outside of the formalities.
AH: These were businessmen and government officials.
LTY: They were businessmen, government officials, artists, and an astronaut. We
were all very experienced in our own individual areas. We had a lot to share with
each other. We were not bound or limited by form or structure. We traveled together with a
common purpose to take note and care and communicate. As a result, the dialogue was
direct and very dynamic. I think it is what I call a new kind of human diplomacy. We had
translators. We ate together, we traveled together. We lost or found our luggage together.
It was intense and valuable.
AH: A sort of citizen diplomacy.
LTY: Absolutely. And what does that ask of us as human beings in this next
period of time we are entering? It may ask of us to be willing to sit down and find a way
to move our differences into the spirit of one accord; to come to a place where we are
committed to peace. It is not something to be ashamed of. Love is not something that is
unsophisticated, naïve, and adolescent. On the contrary, it is by far the most evolved,
sophisticated, and important way to begin to see ourselves as human beings.
We are more loving
than we are selfish. We are inclined to peace, and perhaps more so, because in my opinion
our greatest power as an individual lies in peace and love. We are deeply interconnected.
AH: Interdependent.
LTY: We are interdependent. We need each other.
AH: It's not cool to need someone, is it?
LTY: It's important to need yourself. And in the search for fulfillment of finding
yourself, comes health, and out of that health comes the desire to extend that
well-being to others. My dear friend and
"way-shower" John-Roger has said, "Take care of yourself so you can take
care of others."
AH: Yes. The greatest gift the individual can give to saving the planet and
mankind is that he comes to know who he is. The greatest increment of world peace is
individual peace.
The first step to world peace is inner peace.
LTY: Yes. If I want peace in my life, what do I need to alter in my life that
can contribute to being more peaceful? For me, it would be meditation and
exercise. I
found out a long time ago, for myself, just meditating and ignoring my body is not
productive. It's helpful to keep my spirit and body in balance. Now that may be right for
me and, I suspect, it would be helpful for most people. Someone else may get the true experience of spirit, listening to Beethoven or Mozart
or looking at a Rembrandt or Michelangelo or taking a walk near trees or doing something
more solitary for a brief period of time so that one can attune to what is already
present. Peace is already present. Do we listen? Do we tune in? It's not gone anywhere.
God never goes anywhere. We are the ones who move.
AH: Would you talk a little about your films?
LTY: Sure.
AH: The first I ever saw you in, I think was your first film, I Love You
Alice B. Toklas. More people know you from that picture than ones you did later, it
seems.
LTY:
Yes. I understand. Well, it was a picture of its time. It came out in 1968, made in 1967.
It was a comedy with Peter Sellers during the Vietnam era, hippies, cultural change.
AH: That's where we learned about brownies.
LTY: That so tapped into the current time, and my role was a
"representative" of a certain aspect of what was going on. And for me,
personally, it's pretty amusing because up till the time of doing that movie I had never
smoked marijuana. I had come from a very conservative, cultural family. I was wearing long
skirts and still wearing stockings. I don't think I ever said "groovy" in my
life. I was entering into this role and this culture and I was extremely innocent.
AH: So you were a real actor, there! You weren't just playing yourself?
LTY: No. Not by any means. Because I had never smoked marijuana and this was
obviously about a girl who did all the time. I was deeply concerned that I didn't know
what it was like to be semi-high all the time. What I decided to do was to choose my
favorite symphony and listen to it in my head silently all the time, which is sort of
interesting in terms of how actors work. Intention is everything.

LTY in Jagged Edge
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AH: What is your favorite film?
LTY: I liked my role in Jagged Edge, a small role. I was a witness
being cross-examined. This woman's character had a lot going on that was extremely
different than what she was saying. And that's always interesting to play. I enjoyed being
in Alice B. Toklas.
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AH: You pretty much carried that film and it was your first one.
| LTY: The other cult film I did was Soylent Green. I
remember shooting in 1972 in back of MGM in Culver City. The atmosphere was created with
oppressive smog. I remember it had a sadness for me. You know, on the
whole, I haven't made very
good movies. I think there are three movies, perhaps, which are looked
upon as good. These
movies are Alice B. Toklas, Soylent Green, and Jagged Edge. The rest were just somewhat
mediocre. But there are moments in all of them that hold a sense of quality for me. |

LTY and Charlton Heston in Soylent Green
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AH: Can you pick a moment from one of your movies?

Ryan O'Neal and LTY share a big kiss in The Big Bounce
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LTY: There were some scenes in a Warner's "B " movie
called The Big Bounce. It was my second movie and I made that with Ryan O'Neal.
It was Van Heflin's last movie. And Lee Grant was in it. I was twenty-two years old,
playing a psychopath. I was also the lead in the movie. The story line is one of a girl
kept as a mistress by a very rich man. She likes to live on the edge of things and create
serious crises and see how people will react in terms of pushing the envelope, highly
manipulative, anything for a thrill. She calls it the "big bounce." |
AH: Did this involve farm workers?
LTY: Yes. The character actors were very good. Elmore Leonard wrote the story,
a thriller with noir quality. I was fortunate and blessed to be in the last movie of two
great actors; Edward G. Robinson in Soylent Green and Van Heflin in The Big
Bounce. And Dan Duryea was in Peyton Place the last year I was there and I
got to meet him. I really felt like I experienced a generation passing.
AH: I got to meet Manly Hall in his home about six months before he died. So I
know the feeling.
LTY: I worked very closely to Muktananda in his last years. I loved him very
much. This was before I met John-Roger. I was with Muktananda for three years before I met
John-Roger. I was so deeply called inside to be with John-Roger and study with him. Yet I
loved Muktananda. I am a one guru, one teacher, one master, one way-shower, lover. So it
was confusing. However, I chose what my heart and soul called me to. It was the next
step and what a blessing it was, and is.
AH: He took you by the hand and led you to the other who then took you by the
hand.
LTY: Yes. I grew up in my own home with India as a second culture. From a very
young age I felt a deep connectedness spiritually and culturally to India. And so by the
time I was an adolescent, I was reading Vedanta and I had read Autobiography of a Yogi.
From a young child to adulthood I was being taught by my mentor, who was my
grandfather, an extremely erudite and spiritual man. He was a professor of sociology and
also a minister and was one of the more powerful participants in the Ford Foundation in
India in New Delhi in the 1950s. He went there when I was ten. He and I were so deeply
close, like my first guru. When he returned, which was a year later, he gave me Autobiography
of a Yogi. I think I was twelve. He had already immersed himself in
Eastern thought. He
awoke in me a sense of self worth. He created an atmosphere that was so equitable. Despite
the disparity of our ages, he would sit with me for hours dialoguing about life. It was
always questions. He called me "Tyke." He would say, "Tyke, given this
discussion about the Romans and Greeks, what do you think about the parallel between
them?" Then we would discuss it. He would create this atmosphere of warmth and
invitation to be with him.
AH: I read where you took some time off from your acting career to pursue your
spiritual journey. How long a time was that?
LTY: Six years. In the movie industry, you hear the word "momentum" a
lot, meaning that you do not take time off because the competition is great and trends
shift. You must stay on top of the energy as it's moving since it does move quickly.
Opportunities come and go very rapidly. Leaving for six years means you're literally
eliminating yourself from that machinery.
AH: You must have been very sure of yourself in your career or felt very good
about your spiritual life.
LTY: I had no confidence in either. Looking back with 20/20 vision, I can see
it was perfection. My marriage ended painfully, and I was very young. I had a
new baby. I was devastated by the enormity of everything. A powerful dynamic
had pulled me away from my center, and I realized I must step away.
AH: So you did it because that was the only thing you could do.
LTY: I did it because I, Leigh as a being, needed to survive more than I, Leigh
as an actress, needed to survive. Looking back, I'm proud of myself because every day I
see people who do not step back from their drives to choose to know more of themselves. It
was a choiceless choice. Leaving Hollywood to search for myself was something I had to do. I did it
without guidelines, so it was a free fall that I went for 100%. I had to be somebody who
had a spiritual self.
Thus, I went on a journey. I let go of my press agent, secretary, nanny, agent,
and husband. Taking my child, I drove to Santa Fe, New Mexico, where I found a house in
the Pecos wilderness for $35 a month. I needed to find something that I couldn't identify,
and I couldn't seem to do it while in Hollywood pursuing a career. I am so grateful that I
followed my yearning.
AH: So many other elements are involved in a human being's life other than
just his or her own.
LTY: Who knows what past experiences pushed me into an uncontrollable need to
seek my deeper identity? Was it my grandfather's words, a memory of my yearning for God,
or my feeling about Jesus at a very young age?
All was
triggered by the dissolution of my marriage. I had made the mistake of placing my identity
in another human being. I walked away from a salary higher than what my father earned as a
corporate executive. I had a handsome famous husband, a beautiful child, and a successful
TV series along with beauty and health. I looked at all this at the age of 22 and was so
depressed. By the time I was 24 years old, I had left the business. I had made money, had
an amount of fame, all of these elements, and a beautiful child. None of these added
up to contentment. It was confusing.
So, something had conspired to give me a blessed opportunity to look at
everything that the culture teaches is important. They are not unimportant
by any means, but for me something else was clearly going on. Shortly after finishing Soylent Green, I decided to go to
India. I immersed myself in many metaphysical books, and went to the Sivananda Ashram
because of my close friendship with Peter Sellers. In India, it was the first time in my
young life that everything I yearned for, to know God, was spoken about as if I was asking
for a glass of water. In my culture I was odd. I was a true bhakti. I was utterly in love
with God and didn't know what to do with it. At the Ashram in India all the focus was
about knowing yourself and God was in every other word in various forms. Focus and
intention was all I cared about. And having been very familiar with the Indian culture in
my upbringing, this was not contradictory.
When I came back, I really searched until I found Muktananda. Then, through
another friend, I heard a tape of John-Roger. It was an extraordinary and powerful
experience. I am one of the most blessed people that I know, that my good karma brought me
to Muktananda, and then, moving into love and work and learning with John-Roger. I
consider John-Roger the best friend I'll ever have here and "there" if you will.
It is a rich, multi-dimensional experience.
At the very core of the experience is Love, compassion, forgiveness, soul. He
is my way-shower. A good teacher is someone who has by their very gift and skill,
being, and spirit, awakened me to what I see in him. He never disempowers me.
He uplifts me. All I've ever experienced is awakening, strengthening, and knowing in greater
ways the love that I am and the divinity that I am.
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